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@kuketzblog da widerspreche ich vehement.

Es gibt #proprietär|e #Silos welche qua #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider-Aufbau als #InformationBlackhole agieren (u.a. #WhatsApp, #Signal, #Threema, #Session, #Telegram, #discord, …)

und es gibt #OffeneStandards die #Wahlfreiheit zwischen #Clients, #Plattformen, #Servern und #Providern ermöglichen (u.a. #IRC, #Zulip, #RocketChat, ...) und echte #E2EE mit #SelfCustody aller Schlüssel ermöglichen (u.a. #XMPP+#OMEMO & #PGP/MIME)...

Natürlich steht es Menschen frei irgendeinen großen, zentralisierten Anbieter zu nutzen, nur wird dieser am ehesten zur #Enshittification neigen und mit #PII wie #Telefonnummern entsprechende Begierlichkeiten wecken!

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A lot of discussions are happening regarding the proposal to adapt/update the existing Swiss surveillance law, and that's a good thing.
Without going through the law's details, critics rightfully point to the following problematic aspects:
- economic:
-- increased financial and administrative burden (esp. for SMEs)
-- massive loss of competitiveness compared to countries without comparable laws
-- loss of business model for services mainly built around anonymity (Proton/Threema only marginaly impacted by this, IMO)
- legal: the proposal could conflict with existing laws setting limits to such "existing-laws-updates" (for example, a law update should not profoundly modify or extend the existing law + other technical/legal considerations) - if the proposal were implemented as is, its legality would likely be challenged in court
- privacy:
--- communication service providers would have to ID their users by requesting a copy of either a passport, id card, residence permit or driving license. (art. 20a).
Multiply this by the number of service providers and you quickly see the problem. Without a robust privacy preserving identification method, maybe such as a digital-ID (i.e. no PII hold by the providers), requesting service providers to ID their users, puts the whole population at risk of getting their personal information leaked. And this WILL happen, 100%. - excuse my french, but this is almost as fucking stupid as Chat Control.
-- (if I understand the proposal correctly) massive increase in volume and duration of storage of user metadata for services such as Proton and Threema (among others)

We will soon see the results from the public consultation that ended a few days ago. But there's already been a lot of backlash, from the right to the left.

The good point of the proposal is the exclusion to access encrypted content. I can also live with having to provide an ID (Signal has my phone number, PM my CC) - as long as it's done securely and in a privacy preserving way.
The rest of the law is rubbish, esp. the non-targeted increase in volume and duration of storage of user metadata + the economic/admin burden on SMEs.

Let's see how it will move forward.

Imagine a mobile text chat app that's a cross between Delta.Chat and Silence (defunct SMS app forked from early Signal);
f-droid.org/en/packages/org.sm

As well as being the mobile app for my personal email address, it could also replace my SMS app. With the capacity for E2EE text when the other person's app supports either AutoCrypt (or something based on the variant of Signal's protocol that Silence uses).

f-droid.orgSilence | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App RepositoryEncrypted SMS/MMS conversations made easy!