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I somewhat reluctantly installed paid version of #TomTom Go app on #Android (it was on discount, probably as TomTom are on the ropes) I've got a few long drives coming up and #OSM lacks warnings of the average speed cameras on #A12 in #Essex (alas, I have 0 idea how to accurately add them or if you could even get the data from #NationalHighways (presumably it is possible as TomTom has them)

It works fairly well (other than missing route bar on #AndroidAuto which TomTom and Google are struggling to fix) and does pick up my POIs from existing Tomtom cloud.

I'm not sure of the future of the company, they laid off loads of their staff (probably where #MagicEarth, also based in NL is getting their devs from) and their website and update servers barely work. #GNSS #satnav

Hey, who wants to go to the #cinema in #Hanover? If you think that sounds like a good idea, don’t use a #map app that automatically scrapes #Wikipedia for locations to find one – unless you’re fine with watching a film on #AppleTV instead. Because where once was the historic cinema Palast Theater is now an #AppleStore. 🤦

(The cinema shut down before #OpenStreetMap even existed, so don’t blame them!)

I ditched #MagicEarth (which appears to be also losing features with the paid app!) for #OsmAnd Plus Pro.

Earlier in the year I got a Google Play gift card for my birthday. I don't play mobile games so it seemed worth getting, especially as its currently the same price as the paid #TomTom app)

the app (which I'd used before for recording #GPX tracks of long drives on a separate device) has way more features *and* an active #FOSS community with repos, issue tracker etc.

Speed monitoring and warnings work on #AndroidAuto (with more configurable options). The main feature it lacks is live traffic, but not that big a loss as there's 0 way of avoiding jams at peak time in my region anyway due to limited routes in and out of it!

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Interestingly #MagicEarth pushed an update a few days ago on #Android but still didn't ask for their 0,99€ (nor did they add or remove any features, and they don't even publish release notes).

Worryingly though on Reddit folk with new IOS app (subscription) are claiming speed warnings have disappeared which would be a big feature loss..

There's a hard limit to how much they can enshittify though as users would just go to TomTom (either the free Amigo app or the paid one which is about 14-19€ per year (I'd mistakenly thought it was per *month*) but even the paid app lacks features (blaming Android Auto rules which doesn't seem to be 100% true)

Hopefully the MagicEarth devs realise this, given their HQ is in NL I'd expect a fair few of them could be ex TomTom staff..

It seems #MagicEarth are at least listening to the user community and holding off on the switch to a paid app for #Android until they can find some payment method that doesn't require Google service (I hope this doesn't mean that development stalls until they can get their revenue stream)

IMO if fhey are charging for it the app they should have a full website portal with payment facility *and* access to support with a ticketing system and facility to add crowdsourced map updates (rather than expecting endusers to work out which is #OSM and which is #Foursquare or other third parties), and not relying just on email or worse, Reddit) - basically all that #TomTom *used* to have not that long ago but abandoned...

#navi#maps#GNSS

@vfrmedia Recently I found many double entries on #MagicEarth maps. Devs told me it's because both OSM data and their third party data are showing up. Really disappointing because in my hometown's map I see old restaurants appear that have closed for years, places that have the wrong location... It seems #MagicEarth is going the wrong way. Now that you have to pay for using it, I expect a much better accuracy. But as you say, #CoMaps still lacks basic features (for example a choice between the fastest and the shortest route).

So far #MagicEarth seems least worst of the #navi apps to work with #AndroidAuto - although devs appear very cagey about exactly which version(s) of #OpenStreetMap they are using, and where they are getting their shop / business data from which makes correcting it a bit harder - I've still not heard anything about the spelling mistake I reported (other than an auto acknowledgement) and as its closed source they only have email as a contact method.

It seems to be OSM based but with proprietary datasets tacked on and "crumbs from the table" of their commercial projects (providing navi solutions to transport networks in Germany)

Even so its a better app than many paid ones, especially after #TomTom has become increasingly enshittified, and #CoMaps still lacks features..

Alas, #CoMaps fell at the first hurdle in my test of #Navi software - it doesn't show #speed limit nor #GNSS speed on the screen on #AndroidAuto - a big missing feature! #OrganicMaps (which it is forked from) doesn't have this either, there's an open issue for it but 0 reply / acknowledgement from the devs..

(Curiously the speeds are shown if you use the device standalone, and other Android Auto apps do have this display so its not a Google UI restriction..)

So I will stick to #MagicEarth for the moment..

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@kuketzblog Hab soeben über das Kontaktformular auf magicearth.com/contact die Bitte um eine alternative Bezahlmöglichkeit für die bald anfallenden 99 cent für die Nutzung von #magicearth hinterlassen.

Je mehr schreiben umso eher kann was passieren.

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Für Augsburg fehlen bei der Navigation mit mit #MagicEarth mit dem öffentlichen Nahverkehr generell die Tram Bahnen in Augsburg. Das führt dazu dass bei der Navigation in ME dann entweder nur eine Route zu Fuß oder mit dem Bus angezeigt wird.

Anyone here know what arrangement the #MagicEarth devs have with #OpenStreetMap ? Been using app for a while and downloaded latest UK #map updates, but in spite of statements its an OSM basemap they do not reflect latest OSM for my area (an entire new housing estate is missing on MagicEarth but present on OSM).

Is there some kind of validation that occurs before the OSM maps appear? There is 0 info about how this process works on MagicEarths website, and as its closed source there is no public GitHub repo or issue tracker #navi #GIS

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