Veganism Social

RDNPasteurization, and even exposure to lower (but elevated) temperatures completely inactivates the bird flu virus in raw milk.Summary (with citations to two original papers): <a href="https://phys.org/news/2025-04-avian-flu-raw-broadly-sensitive.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://phys.org/news/2025-04-avian-flu-raw-broadly-sensitive.html</a><a href="https://floss.social/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Science</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Health" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Health</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/BirdFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BirdFlu</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/H5N1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#H5N1</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Milk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Milk</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/RawMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RawMilk</a> <a href="https://floss.social/tags/Pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pasteurization</a>

Nat Oleander<a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/rawmilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rawmilk</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/milk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#milk</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/cows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cows</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/farming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#farming</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/safety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#safety</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/foodsafety" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#foodsafety</a>

(((Cindy Weinstein)))A sequel to the Raw and the Cooked: We're Cooked"<a href="https://zirk.us/tags/Pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pasteurization</a> began in the United States in the 1890s after the discovery of germ theory to control the hazards of highly contagious bacterial diseases which could be easily transmitted to humans through raw milk. It played an important role in decreasing infant mortality at the time. Once pasteurization became more common, infectious diseases with high infant mortality rates decreased by 50%."<a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/12/23/why-conservatives-are-now-obsessed-with-raw-milk/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.salon.com/2024/12/23/why-conservatives-are-now-obsessed-with-raw-milk/</a>

(((Cindy Weinstein)))A sequel to the Raw and the Cooked: We're Cooked"<a href="https://mastodon.world/tags/Pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Pasteurization</a> began in the United States in the 1890s after the discovery of germ theory to control the hazards of highly contagious bacterial diseases which could be easily transmitted to humans through raw milk. It played an important role in decreasing infant mortality at the time. Once pasteurization became more common, infectious diseases with high infant mortality rates decreased by 50%."<a href="https://www.salon.com/2024/12/23/why-conservatives-are-now-obsessed-with-raw-milk/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.salon.com/2024/12/23/why-conservatives-are-now-obsessed-with-raw-milk/</a>

VeganPizza69 ⓋⒶA seminar on Highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 (HPAI H5N1) by an expert: "The global expansion of H5N1 highly pathogenic avian influenza - Prof Thijs Kuiken"The useful part is probably the quick history of H5N1 and its HPAI version. Spoiler: it's because of bird farms. The whole presentation has a veterinary and epidemiological angle, it's not by vegans or for vegans. Note: the presented data is outdated now in terms of how much more the virus has spread, but the rest is solid. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImFD8sLFfvo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImFD8sLFfvo</a>Keep these bits of information in mind for the near future when the conspiracy clowns will come out claiming that it's a "lab leak" or some other red herring. <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/HPAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#HPAI</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/h5n1" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#h5n1</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/bridFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#bridFlu</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/avianInfluenza" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#avianInfluenza</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#pasteurization</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/milk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#milk</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/mooFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#mooFlu</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/rawMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#rawMilk</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/pandemicene" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#pandemicene</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/epdemic" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#epdemic</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/zoonosis" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#zoonosis</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/panzootic" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#panzootic</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/goVegan" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#goVegan</a>

Ele Willoughby, PhD⠀ Thermochromic ink changes colour with temperature. If you heat the print above about 30°C ( 86 F) the turquoise bacteria go colourless and disappear. It’s like a metaphor for <a href="https://spore.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a>! ⠀<a href="https://minouette.etsy.com/listing/80265599" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://minouette.etsy.com/listing/80265599</a>🧵2/2

Kathy E. Gill 🇺🇦Raw milk is a RISKY product.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BirdFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BirdFlu</a> has now killed two cats in California. There’s a reason for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a> (1864). It’s reduced infant mortality by a factor of 30-60. Today, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rawMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rawMilk</a> drinkers are 840 times more likely to get sick than pasteurized milk drinkers. <a href="https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-12-12/cats-in-la-county-die-after-drinking-recalled-raw-milk" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-12-12/cats-in-la-county-die-after-drinking-recalled-raw-milk</a>

Matt HodgkinsonApparently it needs saying again: don't drink raw milk. "This review describes why pasteurization of milk was introduced more than 100 years ago, how <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a> helped to reduce the incidence of illnesses associated with <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/RawMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RawMilk</a> consumption, and the prevalence of pathogens in raw milk. In some studies, up to a third of all raw milk samples contained <a href="https://scicomm.xyz/tags/pathogens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pathogens</a>, even when sourced from clinically healthy animals or from milk that appeared to be of good quality." [1/2] <a href="https://journals.lww.com/nutritiontodayonline/fulltext/2015/07000/Raw_Milk_Consumption_Risks_And_Benefits.10.aspx" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://journals.lww.com/nutritiontodayonline/fulltext/2015/07000/Raw_Milk_Consumption_Risks_And_Benefits.10.aspx</a>

VeganPizza69 ⓋⒶ"New tests confirm milk from flu-infected cows can make other animals sick — and raise questions about flash pasteurization" <a href="https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/24/health/new-experiments-milk-h5n1-infected-cows-raise-questions-flash-pasteurization/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/24/health/new-experiments-milk-h5n1-infected-cows-raise-questions-flash-pasteurization/index.html</a>More <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/mooFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#mooFlu</a> research:<💬> First, they confirmed the raw milk was chock-full of H5N1 virus. Then, they stored some of the raw milk at refrigerator temperature to see if levels of the virus in milk would drop off over time. Over 5 weeks, viral levels in raw milk dropped a bit, but not much. </💬>This should also imply that the virus gets into fermented raw milk products. And if you look for "raw milk ice cream", you'll see that there are sellers and there is a market. I find the issue of ice cream more interesting because it can be stored for a long time, which means outbreaks *later*.<💬> Heating the milk to 72 degrees Celsius, or 181 degrees Fahrenheit, for 15 or 20 seconds — conditions that approximated flash pasteurization — greatly reduced levels of the virus in the milk, but it didn’t inactivate it completely. </💬>This is flash pasteurization, meaning that the heat is applied for a shorter duration, but at a higher temperature. And this is the most common method; I've seen it in action and it's usually some nice machine that efficiently does this, which means that it's cheaper than the "vat pasteurization". Speaking of vat, I'm not sure how many people still do this since the rise of "cartons", but I grew up with raw milk plastic bags and boiling the milk; unfortunately, I wasn't raised vegan. Anyway, I distinctly remember the challenges of boiling cow milk, so I wonder how many of the raw milk buyers are doing their own pasteurization (boiling = vat pasteurization at high temperature).<💬> “But, we emphasize that the conditions used in our laboratory study are not identical to the large-scale industrial treatment of raw milk,” senior study author Dr. Yoshihiro Kawaoka, a virologist who specializes in the study of flu and Ebola, said in an email. </💬>It's true that further processing, which is done in these milk factories, can change the results. They mention the importance of homogenization, but there's also dilution as cow milk is pooled from many sources, so if just a small % of that is infectious, then the dilution will reduce the viral load per unit of fluid, making pasteurization more likely to succeed. I'm not sure about the homogenization and emulsification help in this sense:<💬> a process that emulsifies the fat globules in milk so the cream won’t separate. </💬>I'm not sure about this one. I've seen this in research on tuberculosis bacteria in milk, but not for viruses. Just like with SARS-CoV-2, there is a question of the non-linear effects of viral load (more viral particles, exponentially worse outcomes). They can't really answer. And, who knows, maybe homogenization will make it easier to cow milk to be accidentally aerosolized and/or inhaled. I wouldn't *expect CNN to go for the pessimistic reporting...So, yeah. The raw cow milk drinkers are working stochastically to bring about a new pandemic. And probably new waves of as a bonus tuberculosis. Did you know about drug resistant tuberculosis? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidrug-resistant_tuberculosis" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidrug-resistant_tuberculosis</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/avianInfluenza" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#avianInfluenza</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/birdFlu" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#birdFlu</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/milk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#milk</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/rawMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#rawMilk</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/cowMilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#cowMilk</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/zoonosis" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#zoonosis</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#pasteurization</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/h5n1" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#h5n1</a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/HPAI" class="mention hashtag" rel="tag">#HPAI</a>

HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<a href="https://swiss.social/@evelynefoerster" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@evelynefoerster</a> <a href="https://tooting.ch/@SilviaMarton" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@SilviaMarton</a> I've read that <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a> killed the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BirdFlue" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BirdFlue</a> virus. Is this true?<a href="https://swiss.social/@evelynefoerster/112364550255461831" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://swiss.social/@evelynefoerster/112364550255461831</a>I

Ben Royce 🇺🇦<a href="https://ottawa.place/@stephanie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stephanie</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/pasteurization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#pasteurization</a> does kill <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/viruses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#viruses</a>i'm not saying that it *will* kill <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/h5n1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#h5n1</a>, i'm not speaking with authority herei want to point out another problem:<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MAGA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MAGA</a>, which amplified <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/COVID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#COVID</a> by not wearing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/masks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#masks</a> and avoiding <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/vaccination" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#vaccination</a>, recently fell in love with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/rawmilk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rawmilk</a>, coincidentally:<a href="https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/10/the-alt-right-rebrand-of-raw-milk-00145625" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/10/the-alt-right-rebrand-of-raw-milk-00145625</a>please don't get me wrong, i am not saying raw milk drinking *will* become a vector. but the possibility is not zero. thanks to the same folks who killed so many with COVID

Recent searches

Search options

Administered by:

Server stats:

#pasteurization