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stafwagLookat 2.1.0rc1 released<a href="https://stafwag.github.io/blog/blog/2025/06/08/lookat-2-dot-1-0rc1-released/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://stafwag.github.io/blog/blog/2025/06/08/lookat-2-dot-1-0rc1-released/</a>Lookat 2.1.0rc1 is the latest development release of Lookat/Bekijk, a user-friendly Unix file browser/viewer that supports colored man pages.The focus of the 2.1.0 release is to add ANSI Color support.<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/lookat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#lookat</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#unix</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/bsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freebsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#freebsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#netbsd</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/openbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#openbsd</a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ncurses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ncurses</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/manpage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#manpage</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/color" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#color</a><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/stafwag" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#stafwag</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@stafwag" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@stafwag</a>

scyToday this bugged me enough to investigate it again, and it's actually a confirmed bug in the `man` command! 😂<a href="https://gitlab.com/man-db/man-db/-/issues/40" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/man-db/man-db/-/issues/40</a>As far as I understand it, English man pages are special since they're not in a subdirectory:/usr/share/man/man1/tac.1.gz —vs— /usr/share/man/de/man1/tac.1.gzAnd somehow man's language handling doesn't consider them at all when also finding a page in the $LANGUAGE list.Workaround: Unset $LANGUAGE when invoking `man`. 💁‍♂️<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/CLI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CLI</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/man" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#man</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/manpage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#manpage</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/language" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#language</a>

Mark T. Tomczak(Possibly relevant to <a href="https://social.jvns.ca/@b0rk" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@b0rk</a> 's interests)So I hit a flag in diff, <code>--unchanged-group-format</code>. It does not show up in the manpage. It does not show up in --help. You can search both those channels for that string and you will not find it.You know where it shows up first? If you Google it, you'll get an example in <a href="https://www.gnu.org/software/diffutils/manual/html_node/Line-Group-Formats.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.gnu.org/software/diffutils/manual/html_node/Line-Group-Formats.html</a>.So why doesn't it show up in the manpage? Well, it does! If you read the entire manpage. With your eyes.<pre><code> -D, --ifdef=NAME output merged file with '#ifdef NAME' diffs --GTYPE-group-format=GFMT format GTYPE input groups with GFMT --line-format=LFMT format all input lines with LFMT --LTYPE-line-format=LFMT format LTYPE input lines with LFMT These format options provide fine-grained control over the output of diff, generalizing -D/--ifdef. LTYPE is 'old', 'new', or 'unchanged'. GTYPE is LTYPE or 'changed'. </code></pre>"What do you mean it isn't documented? Of course it's documented. You did read every line and do some template-substitution in your brain, didn't you?"This isn't advocating for not reading the manpage. If you really want to understand how the tool works, you read the whole manpage. And probably the source code. 😉 ... but I don't want to understand how the tool works. I want to diff two files and not have the lines that are the same get emitted.And I think a lot of application- and solution-generating computer people, most of the time, in most of their careers, are operating on that level of depth. Problems come in too fast and with too much variety. You absolutely go deep on some things. There is no time to go deep on everything.So how do we address this (other than throw up our hands and say "Relying on Google's fuzzy search of the whole Internet and vibe-coding LLMs is the future actually")? I don't have magic bullets, but a "fuzzy search" mode in something like <code>less</code> that could take an input like <code>--unchanged-group-format</code> and twig that it if there's no exact match, it might be related to <code>--GTYPE-group-format</code> would be nice.Maybe I should mock that up in emacs. Actually, I bet someone already put it in emacs. ;)<a href="https://mastodon.fixermark.com/tags/emacs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#emacs</a> <a href="https://mastodon.fixermark.com/tags/manpage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#manpage</a> <a href="https://mastodon.fixermark.com/tags/less" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#less</a>

Dendrobatus AzureusWhen I need docs I do `man command'When I pressed F1 in a gui program it did the following* Request a helper running in my DE to parse a html page * Ask the helper to open my default html parser * __Without asking me__ the helper opened a __massive browser__ ravaging ram just to show me what I could find with `man command` * I wonder why instead the Ui program did not do the following* request a helper open a (ba)sh * parse >man command to the helper * have the helper display the manpage in the shThe results would be * Much less resources used * No assumption on my current internet connection would be made * That method has worked for 60 years<IRC> /m shakes head and looks at the massive browser showing the equivalence of a manpage </IRC><a href="https://fuzzies.wtf/@altbot" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@altbot</a> 🖋️ <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/bash" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bash</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/sh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sh</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/zsh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#zsh</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/ksh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ksh</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/csh" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#csh</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/qBittorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#qBittorrent</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/torrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#torrent</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/manpage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#manpage</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/man1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#man1</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/F1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#F1</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/F1Help" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#F1Help</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/WomenWhoCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WomenWhoCode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/640daysofcode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#640daysofcode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/301daysofcode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#301daysofcode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/730daysofcode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#730daysofcode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/100DaysOfCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#100DaysOfCode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/1000DaysOfCode" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#1000DaysOfCode</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/POSIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#POSIX</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/Programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Programming</a> <a href="https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/tags/DEVCommunity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DEVCommunity</a> <a href="https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions</a>

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