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Mark Stosberg<p>I’m trying to check if an old phone running <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/LineageOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LineageOS</span></a> in the US is network locked. It currently doesn’t have a SIM card in it, but I could put in inactive SIM in it if that would help.</p><p>I tried several online IMEI checkers. Besides being covered in ads, none of them showed the lock status.</p><p>Suggestions? Thanks!</p><p><a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@bob_zim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>bob_zim</span></a></span> yeah. Seen it. in the writeup by <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>micahflee</span></a></span> ...</p><p>I just hope to find any that ain't <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Verizon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Verizon</span></a> and that these support more than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LTE</span></a> bands... </p><ul><li>Not shure if it needs a valid <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> or just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ICCID" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ICCID</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Ki" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ki</span></a> on a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> to get going (cuz in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> it's hard [imported <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a>] to illegal [domestic SIMs] to get an anonymous SIM since 07/2017.</li></ul><p>I just wish <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@eff" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>eff</span></a></span> wouldn't expect everyone to use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>centralized</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleVendor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleVendor</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SingleProvider" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SingleProvider</span></a> services like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span> in the age of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a>, cuz neither I nor anyone I'd trust would submit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PII" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PII</span></a> to them like a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PhoneNumer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PhoneNumer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">as a matter of principle!</a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ajsadauskas</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>JessTheUnstill</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tomiahonen</span></a></span> yes, and to <em>add insult to injury</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> device, with the only one being <em>"launched"</em> in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spain</span></a> one could only attain in-store with all the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a>"</em> nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.</p><ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the <em>most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>accessible</span></a>"</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Development</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tools</span></a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> for it and having <em>every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>App</span></a></em> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebView</span></a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HTML5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JS5</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CSS3</span></a> files in a container), they didn't even sold <em>us</em> said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuTouch</span></a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul><p>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nerds</span></a> like myself are far from the <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>consoomer</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>"</em> for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tech</span></a> that I want!</p><ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MobileCoin</span></a> in hindsight…</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Rusty</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>dragonarchitect</span></a></span> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>webOS</span></a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>hp</span></a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> failed because <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozillaofficial</span></a></span> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> that wanted one.</p><ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul><p>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mozilla</span></a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AppStore</span></a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the <em>"P.R."</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a> (!!!)…</p><p>It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.</p><ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OLPC</span></a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XO1</span></a> in retail and didn't even offer the <em>"Give one, Get one"</em> deal in most places...</li></ul><p>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Duopoly</span></a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iOS</span></a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfSabotage</span></a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@quasigod" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>quasigod</span></a></span> there's a reason <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a> died in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Europe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Europe</span></a> over a decade ago.</p><ul><li>People don't like getting shafted - espechally on expensive devices.</li></ul><p>That being said even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a> providers don't lock their devices anymore but instead they just sell people devices at cost with a tiny margin and make their €€€ longterm bunding a free <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SIM</span></a> with every purchase.</p><ul><li>But yeah, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Telco" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Telco</span></a>|s are shit!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@usaryan1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>usaryan1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>jon</span></a></span> +9001%</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RIP</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a>, cuz <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozillaofficial</span></a></span> <em>refusing to sell</em> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/develooers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>develooers</span></a> devices made it a stillborn!</p><ul><li>Seriously, the only <em>Firefox OS</em> phone in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> was some spanish <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d device that one could only get by ID'ing in-store in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Spain</span></a> and go through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>KYC</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityTheater" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SecurityTheater</span></a> cuz it was sold only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a> bundle!</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ieji.de/@etua_en" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>etua_en</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozilla</span></a></span> I never expected <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> to become big overnight, but I actually was shouting <em>"<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</span></a>!"</em> and they were like <em>'Go to Spain and get that obscure prepaid bundle and pray the carrier lets you buy an unlock code to get rid of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a> so you can actually use that thing!'</em>...</p><p>And that's just <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NotCool" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NotCool</span></a>!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hessen.social/@ustralien" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ustralien</span></a></span> yeah, <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://ubuntu.social/@ubuntu" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ubuntu</span></a></span> bitched that one as well, abeit unlike <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozilla</span></a></span> there actually was a.distribotir selling some in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> without <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>...</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@frumble" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>frumble</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mozilla.social/@mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mozilla</span></a></span> Und ja, alle <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebDevs</span></a> die ich kenne waren begeistert wo <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> vorgestellt wurde weil dann ist <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apps</span></a> programmieren umso einfacher und ohne Bullshit möglich...</p><ul><li>Doof nur dass weder ich noch <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> noch sonstwer den ich kannte je ein <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Firefox</span></a>-OS - Gerät kaufen konnten, egal wieviel es gekostet hätte.</li></ul><p>Die einzigen FirefoxOS-Geräte in der <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> waren <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prepaid</span></a>-Handys die nur in Spanien bei Telefonica nur als Bundle mit SIM in Shops verkauft wurden!</p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://wetdry.world/@ohanamatsumae" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ohanamatsumae</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fuzzies.wtf/@micr0" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>micr0</span></a></span> yikes.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NetLock</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a> is still a thing in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a>?</p><ul><li>Cuz that shit died out in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Germany</span></a> over a decade ago and wasn't a thing outside of subsidized <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>prepaid</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/phones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>phones</span></a> in the pre-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/smartphone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>smartphone</span></a> era...</li></ul>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mstdn.jp/@landley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>landley</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@stman" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stman</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@OS1337" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>OS1337</span></a></span> OFC this shift has been gradual and slow.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netbooks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netbooks</span></a> introduced people to the concept of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebApps</span></a> and accepting lower performance for lower price and more battery runtime.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Smartphones</span></a> became cheaper to the point one can get a &lt; €100 one shipped next day via Aperzon and likely even a &lt; € 50 one (+shipping) from eNay or ShitExpress without even negotiating at all.</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Chromebooks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chromebooks</span></a> then extended <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Android</span></a> to something more "productive" and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Apple</span></a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>iPad</span></a> followed suit - don't get me started on <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a>'s failed and overpriced crap tho!</p><p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FirefoxOS</span></a> tried to go full in on the concept of "All you need is a Browser really" but as we all know they hamfisted themselves by not actually selling devices to people that want them - I know <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>fuchsiii</span></a></span> and I wanted one but the only way to get one was to get some Spanish Prepaid Bundle (which noone would proxy-buy because ID registration bs), get the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Netlock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Netlock</span></a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SimLock</span></a> removed and then shipped to Germany...</p><p>And for most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Users" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Users</span></a>", which lets be honest are the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechIlliterate</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Normies</span></a>", all they need is something that can open up NSAbook, Aperzon, YouNuke and allow them to access the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebMailer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebMailer</span></a> of their provider...</p><p>The only reasons I still deploy <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuLTS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UbuntuLTS</span></a> for these is because they tend to randomly want to print stuff, copy files, edit an eMail and put some fancy fonted text into a PDF.</p><p>And because <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BDSG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BDSG</span></a> are inherently incompatible with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CloudAct" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CloudAct</span></a> but I still have to maintain stuff...</p>