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:radare2: radare :verified:You can run r2 or any of it’s tools inside <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> here’s a sample <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app embedding all the assembler/disassemblers of radare2 <a href="https://github.com/radareorg/r2wasm/tree/master/xdc" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/radareorg/r2wasm/tree/master/xdc</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://fe.disroot.org/users/kskarthik" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@kskarthik</a> we are aware of the importance of native calls for mass usage. Webrtc is discussed and also <a href="https://mastodon.social/@n0iroh" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@n0iroh</a> based solutions because we use it already for P2P <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> realtime data channels. But someone experienced with <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/rustlang" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#rustlang</a> focusing on this call area would be helpful, and could lead to relatively quick results, likely.

Delta Chat<a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> ist a community messenger much more than a monetary focused enterprise. Its offspring developments, the growing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> efforts are also community grounded.Is there any other cross-platform FOSS messaging project, implementing <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/RightToExit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RightToExit</a> on many levels, putting all interesting and sensitive computation and interactions into end users devices, constantly and radically denying centrality/control of billionaires and big-tech, to the extent currently possible?

Delta Chat23 is the number of currently active <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays we heart about by now. Only 6 are listed at <a href="https://chatmail.at/relays" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://chatmail.at/relays</a> to complicate ongoing state-level blocking attempts. Please keep setting up <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays -- and thanks to all the early adopters and carers!July 2025 some key contributors will do sessions in <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Lille" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Lille</a>, France at <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@passthesaltcon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@passthesaltcon</a> and discuss the state of efforts to scale <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> to billions of people and bots, without any central points of control.

Delta ChatOrganizational note: It might appear that <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> contributors are easily "on the same page". In fact, there are many ongoing controversial discussions in backrooms and public spaces. We are dealing with tons of user perspectives and feedback, researcher and developer stances, many UX/UI considerations, complex implementation and platform adaptation. We are internally allowing contradictions and complexity ... See also Ashby's requisite variety <a href="https://edgeofpossible.com/ashbys-law-variety-organisational-change/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://edgeofpossible.com/ashbys-law-variety-organisational-change/</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@pancake" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pancake</a> several games have been ported -- any web game (framework) should be easy to port to <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a>

Delta ChatThe trajectory of E2E-encryption is about de-platforming: There shall be no central machines that can control the edges/peers, and the social groups and virtual centers they freely form. Our <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> R&D around <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> relays and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps all aim to realize such a "zero-platforms" fully E2E-encrypted interaction model. However, this is *not* just about cryptographic cleverness. Rather it is about usable anti-authoritarian designs, as explicitly stated in January <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires</a>

Delta ChatDo you struggle to keep your <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/TOTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TOTP</a> secrets synced and backed up properly? Do you wish you could give a group of people access to ephemeral authentication tokens? Then TOTP <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> from <a href="https://chaos.social/@rtn" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@rtn</a> might be for you! Cross platform multi-device support means that you can use these tokens from any device, and you have a natural backup should one device go bust. As with all webxdc apps there is no server hosting involved. Everything is only visible on respective devices and end-to-end encrypted between

Delta Chatoh, wow. We just heard from <a href="https://krefeld.life/@darestiet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@darestiet</a> that there is an upcoming <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/hackday" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hackday</a> workshop called "Transcend the limits of your group chats: collaborative apps" ... WHERE: townhall of city of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Moers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Moers</a>WHEN: Saturday afternoon 2pm. We can't remember to have heart about this before so it's very short notice only, maybe still interesting for people around Dortmund/Duesseldorf <a href="https://www.moers.de/veranstaltungen/hackday-2025-ueberwinde-die-grenzen-deiner-gruppenchats-kollaborative-dezentrale" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.moers.de/veranstaltungen/hackday-2025-ueberwinde-die-grenzen-deiner-gruppenchats-kollaborative-dezentrale</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://tech.lgbt/@risottobias" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@risottobias</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanprior" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ryanprior</a> these general app store considerations and critiques are valid but have no meaning in the context of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps. They are zip files, anyone can put them into a chat. Anyone can curate/maintain their own list of interesting zip files. <a href="https://webxdc.org/apps" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webxdc.org/apps</a> is just a community collection. Users don't need to go there to get or use an app. Apps also don't get updated in-place. Once posted, they stay exactly the same.

Delta Chat<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@Ketakater" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Ketakater</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@ryanprior" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ryanprior</a> @risottobias apps like checklist or "split bill" are less than 100KB. The Pixel app is 241 lines of Javascript without any dependency: 3900 bytes including an icon. <a href="https://codeberg.org/webxdc/pixel/src/branch/main/script.js" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/webxdc/pixel/src/branch/main/script.js</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps are very very minimal and all come with inspectable source code. There are no http requests at all. So it's not even that hard to verify there are no side channel attempts in most existing appa. An app literally is a zip-file btw, see also <a href="https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://delta.chat/en/2025-01-23-webxdc-no-billionaires</a>

Delta ChatDear fans of messenger comparison sports, How does it factor in that on <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> there are many apps that can be used in a chat without requiring a login or even a privacy policy ... And the apps all work like cryptpad but automatically and without requiring any server side hosting? Editing documents and checklists and calendars are all safely end-to-end encrypted without a server and anyone can write new <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps permission free. Which other cross-platform messenger offers this?

Delta ChatAnother <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> release highlight that we didn't tell about yet: De-duplication of attachments and media files. De-duplication means that if you share a larger file to multiple chats, it will only ever exist once in each sending and receiving device's storage. Same for <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps -- so if you use the 650KB big "v86emu" app running 32-bit ISO images, it will also only exist once in storage, even if each instance in a chat creates its own realtime LAN. Mini-tutorial <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta/114161626183191989" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://chaos.social/@delta/114161626183191989</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://friends.chasmcity.net/profile/gmc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gmc</a> great and welcome :) did you try out the v86 app in a chat yet? It allows to run 32bit iso images, and if you configure eth0 on multiple devices the chat members will have an end-to-end encrypted private lan (using <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> realtime channels). Telnet/netcat/ping etc works. This virtual Ethernet even degrades in performance if too many devices do traffic :) tip: try it better on a desktop not mobile (although should also work)

rtnFinally finished moving all my two factor authentication accounts to TOTP app and can now uninstall Authy!You can run it in Delta Chat, Monocles and Cheogram. It works nicely on multi-device and therefore codes are backed up and available across devices.Some of the services that work fine:- codeberg - mastodon - github - npm - microsoft<a href="https://webxdc.org/apps/#rtn-totp" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://webxdc.org/apps/#rtn-totp</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/totp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#totp</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#monocles</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cheogram</a>

Delta Chat<a href="https://universeodon.com/@SrRochardBunson" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@SrRochardBunson</a> <a href="https://1210.nl/@adnan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@adnan</a> we generally recommend to start by switching together with family, friends or existing special-interest groups or small activist orgs. <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> apps (calendar, editor, games) can provide a real functionality benefit, so it's not "just" about ethics. This approach won't immediately replace all WhatsApp usage but is a good base to expand from. Anyone who gets added to a group will immediately have secure contact and chats with all group members, also in DMs with them.

Delta Chat<a href="https://estradiol.city/@ity" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ity</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> is a shared spec and joint impelemntation with eg <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/cheogram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#cheogram</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/monocles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#monocles</a> ... It has nothing to do with proton. Webxdc apps are shared in a chat and run inside the messenger. Proton does not have a messenger. Webxdc apps work on all platforms that <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> messengers are released for, including <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@deltatouch" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@deltatouch</a> , an Ubuntu based phone. DeltaTouch runs all webxdc apps including the realtime p2p ones. <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@lk108" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@lk108</a> is doing an incredible job :)

DeltaTouchDeltaTouch 1.12.0 is out, highlights:🔹 Sync deletion of messages and chats across devices 🔸 Page sized text editor for longer messages 🔹 Webxdc: Notifications (and more) 🔸 Improved integration into UT (ContentHub import/share)Also included: Preparation for the long-awaited feature teased by <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@delta</a> 😇 <a href="https://chaos.social/@delta/114126529706721026" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://chaos.social/@delta/114126529706721026</a>Full changelog: <a href="https://codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/src/branch/xenial/CHANGELOG" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://codeberg.org/lk108/deltatouch/src/branch/xenial/CHANGELOG</a>Webxdc support in DeltaTouch is generously funded by <a href="https://social.nlnet.nl/@nlnet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@nlnet</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.xyz/@NGIZero" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@NGIZero</a>, thanks!<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DeltaTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaTouch</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DeltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DeltaChat</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Webxdc</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UbuntuTouch</a>

Bhante Subharo :xmpp:After trying out <a href="https://c.im/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> and <a href="https://c.im/tags/arcanechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arcanechat</a>, I've discovered the <a href="https://c.im/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> app store. My Dad loves <a href="https://c.im/tags/Sudoku" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sudoku</a> puzzles, and I was tempted to play some competitive Sudoku with him. What assurance is there that there are no sketchy apps in the webxdc app store? Can these apps break out of their little jail, and root my phone? What would the <a href="https://c.im/tags/infosec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#infosec</a> community say? There's somewhat of a thread on the "threat model"/security of webxdc here (but I think it still needs more scrutiny): <a href="https://support.delta.chat/t/webxdc-threat-model/3018" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://support.delta.chat/t/webxdc-threat-model/3018</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/puzzle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#puzzle</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/puzzles" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#puzzles</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/competitive" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#competitive</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/game" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#game</a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/multiplayer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#multiplayer</a>

Delta ChatWith <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/deltachat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#deltachat</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/chatmail" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#chatmail</a> and <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/webxdc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webxdc</a> developments we aim to instigate a new modern foundation for secure E-Mail and a resilient Web without platforms. We are building a kind of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/minecraft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#minecraft</a> system for modern decentralized messaging. But who are we building it for? For all who need reliable trustable means of modern private communication. While our work needs hackers and experts it's not designed for them. <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tante</a> raises interesting and important related thoughts <a href="https://tante.cc/2025/03/03/who-is-free-software-for/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://tante.cc/2025/03/03/who-is-free-software-for/</a>

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