At home I run a POND server so that I can look after my own data thankyouverymuch:
- Postfix (e-mail exchange)
- OpenLDAP (users)
- Nextcloud (cloud files, calendar, address book)
- Dovecot (IMAP email server)
It's on a small PC right now, but I'm wondering if it might be a good sideline for the #Jolla #Mind2
Another busy fortnight for Sailfish OS. Community meetups like the one in Bremen remind us how important it is to stay connected. If you are organizing one, let us know so we can help spread the word.
Sailfish OS 5.0 rollout is now underway. Fixes and improvements continue, with bigger updates headed toward 5.1.
Catch the latest Community News
https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-17th-april-2025-easter/22772
Happy Easter from all of us at Jolla. Enjoy the time with your friends and loved ones.
@taketwo @SrMono @neons @WeAreFairphone And your point is?
They already do work with Murena. Keep in mind Fairphone is still a very small company, compared to others, with limited resources. They can't do it all on their own. And each Fairphone sold is contributing to the idea there is a way to do things differently than what happens now.
Until things like #jolla or #VollaOS and #ubuntutouch gain significant traction (especially UT needs a revival), they are our best chance.
Hey #FediFriends,
Has anyone tried #SailFishOS?
Any thoughts?
Just toying with the idea of getting a mini-laptop-style phone at some point, like a Gemini.
How does using the #Jolla #JollaC2 (@jolla) with #SailfishOS for about a week as a daily driver now (with my old #iPhone at home as a backup)?
In general, it works much better than I had hoped after my experiences with other alternative #smartphone systems and it indeed is the first (and so far only) system that indeed works quite well. Also at around 285€ (https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone) it isn't too expensive, so one can simply try it out.
There are a few limitations though:
* I am really missing biometric unlocking
* There is no predictive text input, so typing could be more comfy
* The UX experience sometimes feels strange (but no no-gos for me)
* It is not a snappy and fast device
* Audio quality is so-so
* GPS really needs a GPS signal, so no WIFI-based location
What is great:
* It is a real #Linux, so it has a #terminal, #sshd, you can e.g. use the #Nix package manager etc.
* Android apps are running in a container
* You can have different users to limit data access
Unfortunately there are nearly no high-quality native apps so far and the built-in ones are very basic (e.g. email).
But: The #Android compatibility layer is very good, the system comes with #Fdroid and #AuroraStore (#Google store front-end) pre-installed, so you can easily install practically all official Android apps.
Most apps work very well, some (especially banking) apps do not though as they complain that the system is rooted, so YMMV regarding the apps you need.
In general I am really happy with this system.
And: All the de-ggoglefied Android phones like the #Volla will always still remain just that: A more limited Android. SailfishOS offers a path towards powerful native (#Qt/#QML/#Cplusplus/#Python/you name it) based apps.
I am hoping that Jolla will provide a significantly more powerful device option and that some of the problems above will be solved.
But already now, even with the limitations above, if you are somewhat technically inclined (but without the need to fiddle with a command line unlike with the open mobile Linux distributions), want to get rid of #Google or #Apple for whatever reason, want a #Linux #smartphone, support a #European company from #Finland, this phone is really usable.
This Jolla phone looks like a candidate for an EU phone. Finnish made. Runs their own Linux version “Sailfish OS” and appears to be secure with optional access to Android apps and a Google replacement system, if I’m reading this right.
Anyone tried one?
#jolla #phone #android #iPhone #Europe #security #linux #finland
Changed my mind. I decided to install Sailfish on the Sony Xperia 10 III.
It was plain sailing. 
I guess, things only become difficult when things go wrong, and things went very smoothly.
In brief, I unlocked the bootloader, and downloaded Android 12 from Sony. I flashed that to the Xperia (11 wasn't available). I performed all the usual 'phone stuff, which worked. I then flashed the 'phone with Sailfish using fastboot.
The same things are still working.
@Bnerde
Vom Hersteller ( #Jolla ) gibt es das leider nur für ein paar Sony-Modelle und das vor Kurzem vorgestellte Jolla C2 (https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/).
Ansonsten gibt es die sog. Community Ports, bei denen Freiwillige #SailfishOS auf eine Menge Geräte portiert haben (https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-hardware-adaptations/14081). Das S5 neo scheint aber leider nicht dabei zu sein.
Jolla ist leider zu klein, um Anbieter wie Samsung auf ihre Seite ziehen zu können.
@OpenComputeDesign @s31bz @light @admitsWrongIfProven
good feedback! i think #furiphone has support for #android apps (#waydroid iirc?) and back in the day so did #jolla / #sailfish - i think you can get those on a #sony these days
also i've run android-x86 in vm and its alright but idk what those apps are gonna try. supposedly only finance apps are allowed by google to check for a rooted phone but ... who knows https://peabee.substack.com/p/everyone-knows-what-apps-you-use
Just got hit by some ads about the latest #Jolla C2. What are your feelings about it? https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-community-phone
youtube won’t work on either my 10iii or 10ii.
starts then immediately stops on the 10ii, simply doesn’t seem to start on the 10iii
both running 5.0.61
#sailfishos #sailfishos5 #jolla
Er der nogen her som har erfaring med
hvilken #Linuxphone kan håndtere vores elskede
#MitID #MobilePay apps .. ?
Det er tid at gå (tilbage) til #linux på #mobil - men de to apps er ligesom #cantDoWithout ...
tak!
Time to #free the #mobilephone too.
Therefore, collecting possible alternatives here,
for me and others -
and grateful for additional pointers and experiences:
Special #denmark #Danmark twist: #MitID #MobilePay apps ..
(update: on dk mastodon, i hear #MobilePay runs on #Jolla)
#sailfish #postmarketOS #Pine #purism #librem5 #liberty #jolla #linuxmobile
https://linmob.net/categories/weekly-update/
Really finding the Jolla C2 a tricky beast to use day to day, lots of hanging and frozen native apps, camera locking up the moment you open it. The Android apps are a little better but still unreliable. Banking app for the Nationwide in the UK does work!
Shame as they are pushing it as a daily driver now and I have to say its not, other than for phone calls and sms.
So I guess some would argue it is meeting the basic needs of a phone but no a smartphone.
Life with Sailfish OS, day 1, hour 1
Having gotten my banking app to run on Sailfish by downgrading to a slightly older version, starting an experiment to use Jolla C2 as a daily driver. I've spent a few evenings tinkering with this, hunting, installing and configuring necessary apps etc. What follows is random observations from the first hour after swapping the SIM over from my real daily driver (Nokia XR20) and letting the reality sink in:
Obligatory disclaimer: this is not the intended use of the C2 phone - it's a "reference phone", aimed at developers. So we need to give the hardware a break. But, as an observation, the protective cover doesn't sit properly on the button side, making the use of the main lock/unlock button annoying. It looks and feels like an ill-fitting condom, really. I might end up ditching the cover, this is not a phone I would take to the garage anyhow.
There are zero swipe options or actions for the keyboard. In fact there are zero options for configuring the keyboard at all. What I immediately miss are two things:
- moving the cursor by swiping over space bar
- number row on the keyboard, I prefer it always there
The latter is one of those tiny details that make up ones preferences, I expect to be in the minority wrt this. The former is going to be painful.
The default search engine in the Sailfish OS native browser is Google.
Let that sink in for a moment.
This is by far the biggest WTF so far, a slap in the face, really. For a phone whose raison d'etre is to be NOT FROM GOOGLE, and advertised with a privacy edge, this is a pretty terrible blunder. The default alternative search engines are just as bad, and there's no obvious way to install or configure alternatives from the browser.
Another dive into forum.sailfishos.org reveals that once you visit a search engine (such as www.quant.com), it magically appears in the search engine preferences. Which is kinda neat, but totally undiscoverable for the new user.
Edit: post language to English
Uteliaisuuttani vaihdoin tyttäreni hylkäämään puhelimeen käyttöjärjestelmäksi supisuomalaisen Jollan. Ihan heittämällä ei mennyt ja käyttölogiikassa moni juttu menee toisin kuin Androidissa, joten vähän täytyy totutella. Tässä on visuaalisesti jotain samaa kuin Windows Phonessa - mutta hyvässä mielessä.
Periaatteessa amerikkalainen Android olisi siis näin korvattavissa kotimaisella vaihtoehdolla. Android-softat myöskin toimivat.
Posting from my new Jolla C2, just for the heck of it: there's even a native Mastodon client for SailfishOs.
Some sacrifices and lots of getting used to required, but if I can get the banking app to work, I think I could live with this as a daily driver.
(I know about microg but so far, no go. Need to dig into it some other day. Google-freedom is quite the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow)
) : It's perfectly happy running the normal Linux/aarch64 binaries of 