Hosted-in-
, public chatmail relay:
e2ee one-to-one and group chat; takes less than a minute to create an account and requires zero personal info; federated with all other chatmail relays; native mobile and desktop apps
Feel free to grab an account; PM me here or add the chtml.ca admin account if you have issues or need a hand
23 is the number of currently active #chatmail relays we heart about by now. Only 6 are listed at https://chatmail.at/relays to complicate ongoing state-level blocking attempts. Please keep setting up #chatmail relays -- and thanks to all the early adopters and carers!
July 2025 some key contributors will do sessions in #Lille, France at @passthesaltcon
and discuss the state of efforts to scale #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc to billions of people and bots, without any central points of control.
For anyone wanting to try the secure messaging app #deltachat there is now a local Aussie #chatmail server at https://chatmail.au
"if your social media network can go down it is not decentralized" they say and rightfully so. Same is true for much other infrastructure ... Energy, water, internet utilities ... And of course messaging. If your messenger can go down it's not decentralized. During 2025 we aim to make #deltachat and #chatmail infrastructure in particular into the most resilient and mass-user accessible private messenging utility out there ... If it isn't already :)
@jubei @signalapp There are two things I'm aware of: 1. Signal asks people to ideally use Google/Apple accounts to install and update.
2. "Google Maps and Firebase Cloud Messaging"
Also the server side is not really free software, but they don't even federate, so – who cares.
I'm using #DeltaChat more and more, though. In the long run I'm fine with switching to that completely.
@bitsoffreedom Signal is no proper alternative to WhatsApp if you want to be independent of US, and have digital sovereignty, take a look at #DeltaChat https://delta.chat
@ct_Magazin wie kann man 2025 bei "sicheren" Messangern noch an @delta #deltachat vorbei kommen?
bzw. allein die Geschichte um die Entwicklung wäre vermutlich einen eigenen Artikel wert.
vielleicht mal @hpk kontaktieren.
Organizational note: It might appear that #deltachat #chatmail and #webxdc contributors are easily "on the same page". In fact, there are many ongoing controversial discussions in backrooms and public spaces. We are dealing with tons of user perspectives and feedback, researcher and developer stances, many UX/UI considerations, complex implementation and platform adaptation. We are internally allowing contradictions and complexity ... See also Ashby's requisite variety https://edgeofpossible.com/ashbys-law-variety-organisational-change/
Today we are unveiling two brand new features by ... drum-roll ... doing nothing:
- No "AI" integration involved or planned. Consequently, you don't need to teach your relatives how to disable AI!
- No proprietary server components: servers are fast, efficient and freely replicable, no permissions needed!
Moreover, our apps are easier to use and onboard with than SIM/phone number based apps: Multi-device and Multi-profile handling is a piece of cake.
Nutzt #deltachat
Hat keinen Lizenzcode nötig.
Al arrancar de 0 en un nuevo ordenador, me acuerdo de por qué XMPP no puede triunfar (así), y por qué Delta Chat gana cada vez más puntos...
Con #DeltaChat, añadir un nuevo dispositivo está a un QR de distancia. Y pum: lo tienes todo a tu disposición. Todo. Sin barreras. 100 % encriptado.
Con #XMPP, haces lo mismo, PERO literalmente pierdes la posibilidad de leer TODOS tus mensajes antiguos. ¿Qué MI***A es esta?
Es imposible considerar a XMPP como algo serio así. Sinceramente.
@mondstern @meshtastic wow - #deltachat in acryl 
I'm planning on trying #DeltaChat, how important is it to try to distribute the load accross chatmail servers?
If it's worth distributing it, are there any servers in France?
The list from https://chatmail.at/relays does not include anything but I don't know whether it's comprehensive.
Unha noite dura mirando comparativas e información sobre programas de mensaxería alternativas a Whatsapp. A verdade é que hai moitas: #matrix #conversations (protocolo XMPP) #Briar #deltaChat #sessions. Quedome con este consello de https://simplifiedprivacy.com
Briar para a familia
XMPP para amigos e extranos
Sessions para evitar a censura
Matrix para a empresa
@matt @jzb @danirabbit
what about #deltachat
https://delta.chat/en/
Womit wir wieder bei #deltachat sind.
@kuketzblog what are the "Delta Chat missionaries" saying? 
I am one of the #DeltaChat developers and I don't think any of us claim Delta Chat is some "state of the art" perfect or "the best", "the fastest" etc as other messengers boldly do.
The selection of parameters of comparison in your messenger table is also subject to what you think is important, it is hard to be neutral, also it seems the "metadata protection" field is not completely correct for Delta Chat:
@kuketzblog
Das ist die richtige Einstellung! 
Jeder Messenger hat seine Fans – aber manche Communitys sind echt anstrengend. Die größten Missionare findet man mit Abstand bei Threema, dicht gefolgt von Delta Chat. Kritik? Undenkbar. Da wird sofort erklärt, warum du das Problem bist.
Aber hey, sollen sie ruhig über mich herziehen – die kostenlose Werbung nehm ich doch gern mit. Wenn sie sich schon aufopfern, um meinen Namen in ihren Filterblasen zu verbreiten, will ich da nicht im Weg stehen. 
What is the best #decentralized #messenger out there for the long run?
#SimpleX #selfhosted #selfhosting #matrix #element #briar #deltachat #privacy
