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#framework12

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I sadly have to say, now that its specs, price and preorder are online, there is little going for the #Framework12 - its not as cheap as some might have hoped after all, and its biggest factor is, that it has upgradable ram and higher ram limit than the affordable Lenovo Thinkpad 2in1/Yoga models.

But you still don't get thunderbolt and as we already knew, the CPUs are old ULP Intel cpus.
Not sure I would want that to be my next laptop.

@bastetfurry @janet_catcus the only thing cooler would be if they did a #transparent version, but I also know why they didn't and instead chose said muted colour pallet: As those are easily sourceable, child-safe (if not medical- or food-grade), and available as recycling plastics. Also said colours don't directly show ABS's yellowing under sunlight that distinctively.

Keeping costs down, compared to the high prices of optically clear, non-discoloured plastic ehich also tends to be more brittle, and also may not be an option due to the way they pulled a "#ThinkPadnium" style metal reinforcement of the chassis, as they clearly worked out a mix of elastic deformation (TPU), lightweight flexing and stiffening is the way to make a machine that is more forgiving in terms of abuse without designing it to be an unwieldy, heavy industrial appliance.

So yeah, I do want to see @frameworkcomputer release the #Framework12 and maybe some compact #Desktop case that is essentially allowing to shove a Framework 12 or #Framework13 mainboard and keyboard in and have a low-footprint unit like the #RaspberryPi #Pi400 & #Pi500 units. Or just some case one can bolt onto #VESA mounts at a screen (similar to a #ThinkStation Tiny / #ThinkCentre Tiny) and use those for #Classrooms.

I hope they have some nice #Stylus slot & lanyard option similar to the #X230Tablet I still daily-drive today.

@bastetfurry @janet_catcus @frameworkcomputer not to mention whilst tooling up for reinforced plastic is more expensive than CNC'ing aluminium or get that sheetmetal-pressed, the cost per unit goes down way easier as said plastic parts are less abrasive to tools and one set of shells can be used to injection-mould several thousand cases at a higher speed, reducing tge time and space needed per unit.

  • Also mind you the replacement parts prices will OFC be higher than the cost of manufacturing, cuz every "FRU" or "CRU" on it's own generates a new SKU to inventory and manage, whereas just combining multiples to make a "#Framework12" unit is not adding much.

OFC I do expect this thing, which is basically a modern spin on the "#IntelClassmate" #Laptop to not have extreme high-end and be designed with a specific price point in mind.

  • Propably do a rubbery keyboard and better ingress protection to make it more viable for handibg out to schoolchildren.

Add to it that Framework isn't #Quanta, #Clevo or #Foxconn and we ain't talking #MacBook margins, but given they didn't release specs nor MSRP but are eager to get #bulk orders from #education customers, that seems the trajectory they're going.

  • Shurely they could easy do a "€299" offering with an N100, 128GB NVMe & 8GB RAM if one were to order like 10.000 and pay upfront, but I do expect them to rather go with like a N300 instead so these devices ain't dead slow and can survive 6 years of 8x5 use in an elementary/middle school setting.

Das #framework12 sieht wirklich ganz nett aus und wenn es jemand hin bekommt unter Linux einen gut benutzbaren Stylus anzubieten dann wohl #framework oder bekommen sie da zu viel Vorschuss Lorbeeren von mir ?

Der #frameworkDesktop mit fest verlötetem RAM wirkt hingegeben wie Satire auf mich.

liliputing.com/framework-lapto

Liliputing · Framework Laptop 12 is a repairable convertible notebook with stylus support - LiliputingFramework Laptop 12 is a repairable convertible notebook with stylus support