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RustyTuxGoogle Gemini greift auf die Daten einiger Apps zu, wie auch in einigen Presseberichten zu lesen ist. Für mich ein weiterer Beweis, das wir dringend ein nichtkommerzielles, freies Betriebssystem für "alle" brauchen, welches benutzerfreundlich und hardwarekompatibel ist. Nicht einfach, viele verdienen am derzeitigen System. Alternative Finanzierungsmodelle zum "Datenhandel" werden wohl erforderlich sein. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> war ein interessanter Ansatz. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MobileOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MobileOS</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeMobileOSNow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FreeMobileOSNow</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mas.to/@gabrielesvelto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gabrielesvelto</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozilla_support" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozilla_support</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> yes, and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> deciding to fragment <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> more by basically letting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MNO</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MVNO</a> run the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStores" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStores</a> instead of having a reference one made it worse than the chinese domestic market cuz at leadt there one can just get an agent to enshure one's apps are in all <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> AppStores there...<ul><li>It really felt like a regression in a time when even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> providers in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Germany</a> stopped <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>|ing & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>|ing devices and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ALDItalk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ALDItalk</a> was the established prepaid leader with a €2,99 flat between it's clients.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mas.to/@gabrielesvelto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@gabrielesvelto</a> I still remember <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> and I'm still mad at <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> / <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozilla_support" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozilla_support</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> for self-sabotaging because neither me nor <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> nor anyone else I knew who did <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebDev</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppDev</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MobileDev</a> could even buy a device.<ul><li>The only device that I was aware of launched in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> was a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a> which wouldn't sell it to us since they demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a> with a spanish residency address.</li></ul>I mean it's cool that one could just use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Emulator" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Emulator</a> but no <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#mobile</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OperatingSystem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OperatingSystem</a> will have any chance of market attraction if one cannot buy the bloody thing!<ul><li>Same like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenMoko</a>: I'd love to get a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Neo1973" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Neo1973</a> but none of the phone and electronic stores had it (and back then I was under 16 so I couldn't just make an account at an online shop)…</li></ul>

VA :mastodon:☑️<a href="https://masto.ctms.me/@cinimodev" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@cinimodev</a> I never actually saw/read your reply, sorry 😬Browsing is (maybe) the one thing I would expect <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> to do well, since it is based on the now-defunct <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> 🤓Regarding the (lack of) apps, did you check <a href="https://store.bananahackers.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://store.bananahackers.net/</a>, an alternative app store? 🤔Couldn't you have bought a new SIM card subscribed to a very cheap plan? No Bluetooth? ☹️BTW: Guess who now has a (somewhat) functional, working Nokia E72 in 2025 😎 <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#symbian</a>

Baessando ☭🇧🇷🇵🇸🇺🇳Projetos Atuais:- BrejaTecMelhor Happy Hour de Tecnologia. Encontro mensal para que as pessoas de TI (mas todos são bem-vindas) possam se conhecer :blobBone_jump: Desde 2018, com mais de quase 7 anos e mais de 80 edições! Todo mês juntando quem quiser participar :bugcat_awe:Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brejatec/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/brejatec/</a>Telegram: <a href="https://t.me/BrejaTec" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://t.me/BrejaTec</a>- Dados LivresÉ uma plataforma colaborativa que permite a catalogação de fontes de dados abertos e aplicações cívicas, facilitando o acesso e a organização de informações públicas em diversas áreas como educação, saúde, economia, transporte e meio ambiente.Site: <a href="https://dadoslivres.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://dadoslivres.org</a>- ASPOAN A Associação Potiguar Amigos da Natureza (ASPOAN) é uma entidade com mais de 40 anos de atividade que visa ações voltadas ao desenvolvimento sustentável e à defesa do meio ambiente, promovendo atuações diretas, manifestações, ações no ministério público, órgãos governamentais e políticas na região de Natal e no RN.Site: <a href="https://www.aspoan.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.aspoan.org/</a>- IFRNO Instituto Federal de Educação, Ciência e Tecnologia do Rio Grande do Norte (IFRN) é uma instituição pública com mais de 100 que oferece mais de 200 cursos gratuitos em diferentes níveis, incluindo formação inicial, técnica, graduação e pós-graduação, com vagas anuais para milhares de estudantes, além de atuar em pesquisa, extensão e ensino à distância.Site: <a href="https://www.ifrn.edu.br" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.ifrn.edu.br</a>- VETORO objetivo desse grupo é desenvolver projetos de ensino, pesquisa e extensão por meio da integração colaborativa de seus membros, promovendo formação técnica e cidadã, com impacto acadêmico e social. Atualmente com 6 projetos atuando com feiras de ciência, gestão ágil de projetos, divulgação de conhecimentos, desenvolvimento de sites e designs, sistemas para dados abertos e proteção ambiental.------Projetos Antigos:- PotiLivre (em atividade com outras pessoas)A PotiLivre é a Comunidade Potiguar de Software Livre, fundada em 2013, composta por voluntários que promovem a filosofia, o uso e a capacitação em software livre no Rio Grande do Norte, organizando eventos gratuitos e sem fins lucrativos para aproximar entusiastas, estudantes e profissionais de TI.Site: <a href="https://www.potilivre.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.potilivre.org</a>Telegram: <a href="https://telegram.me/potilivre" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://telegram.me/potilivre</a>- Canal do YouTube – Devaneios Sem Limites (<a href="https://bolha.one/@pBaesse" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@pBaesse</a>):Canal criado por Baesse que aborda temas diversos como series, apps, tecnologia, cultura, estilo de vida e reflexões pessoais. Foi um espaço livre de nicho único, com foco em autenticidade e temas interdisciplinares.Canal: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pBaesse" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@pBaesse</a>- CuradoriaCast Podcast criado por Baesse, Mariana e Bruce, com episódios quinzenais sobre cultura pop, tecnologia, privacidade digital e entretenimento. Atuou entre 2020 e 2023 e esteve disponível nas principais plataformas de streaming.Link: <a href="https://linktr.ee/curadoriacast" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/curadoriacast</a>Mozillian:“Mozillian” é o termo utilizado para identificar voluntários da comunidade global da Mozilla. Essas pessoas atuaram promovendo software livre, defesa da privacidade e uma internet aberta. Pedro Baesse foi um ex-voluntário ativo nessa comunidade. Fiz campanha pelo uso do <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefox</a> e do <a href="https://bolha.one/tags/firefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#firefoxOS</a> (saudades!)(Mais informações podem ser encontradas em <a href="https://www.mozilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.mozilla.org</a>)

Gabriele SveltoAs you probably heard animated PNG images (APNG) have been standardized! So here's a story on how I used an APNG file to cut a phone's power consumption by 10 times in a common scenario during the weeks leading up to the launch of Firefox OS 1.0. We'll talk about webpage layout, rendering, mobile hardware intricacies, driver bugs and of course APNG files. 🧵 1/16<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@knurd42/114743763415059021" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://social.linux.pizza/@knurd42/114743763415059021</a><a href="https://mas.to/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/PNG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PNG</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mastodon.social/@fschaap" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fschaap</a> <a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> yeah, but why is it in the drawer (besides <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> being let to die prematurely)...We may be aware of Firefox OS' existance in the past but it was never even tried to be sold anywhere to any effect.<ul><li>And believe me, both <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> and I tried to get our hands on any device that came with it and I've never heard of the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ZTE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ZTE</a> Open C before, much less any device being sold in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Germany" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Germany</a> which is absolutely flabberghasting to me given that in the late 2000s and early 2010s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> was the dominant <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Browser</a> in Germany and thus had the best chance to leverage that customer base with good integrations like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MozillaPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MozillaPocket</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxPocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxPocket</a>. </li></ul>I still love <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Fennec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Fennec</a> aka. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxMobile</a> but I'm still mad at <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> for not even trying to sell me a device, cuz I was at the time literally shouting: "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" and searched the (back then 4) MNOs' and their (half a dozen) MVNOs' stores (both retail and online) and never came across a Firefox OS device.<ul><li>Same with (online) electronics retailers: NONE of them even had a single listing when I looked for those.</li></ul>Which reminds me of the (coined by me term) "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RedBlueIndex" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RedBlueIndex</a>" [named after the parent company that owns both <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Saturn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Saturn</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MediaMarkt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MediaMarkt</a>, the two biggest, spechalized electronics retailers]:<ul><li>If you can't find a product on shelf at Saturn/MediaMarkt, it doesn't exist in the minds and conciousness of the average <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consumers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consumers</a>!</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://piaille.fr/@ciourte" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ciourte</a> <a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> Needless to say I've only heard of some Spanish low-cost <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MVNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MVNO</a> offering one device only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/bundle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#bundle</a> when <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was unveiled at the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MWC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MWC</a> in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Barcelona" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Barcelona</a> based off coverage in <a href="https://social.heise.de/@ct_Magazin" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ct_Magazin</a> at the time.<ul><li>Cuz I remember <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebDevs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebDevs</a> like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> really loving it because it was the then hot & fresh <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JS6</a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> combo to make it super-easy to do <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a>. All one needs to build an app was <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> as Browser and the ability to basically zip' it.</li></ul>Alas <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> deciding on purpose to literally splinter the market by letting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MNO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MNO</a>|s and MVNOs run their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s instead of a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/centralized" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#centralized</a> model, making the situation worse than in the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#China</a> where there are several vendor-independent <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStores" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStores</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>. <ul><li>"Conspiracy Theorists" even suggested that this was deliberate self-sabotage to benefit <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Google</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>, tho needless to say Firefox OS aimed at devices & specs that were too low for Android.</li></ul>Still, I'm <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/StillMad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#StillMad</a> at <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> for faceplanting Firefox OS cuz it had the easiest way to get started and a good architecture being every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> is just a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebApp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebApp</a> and all the system calls were standard <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a> permissions and nothing fancy.<ul><li>Basically <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PSvita</a> - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Syndrome,</a> but worse as in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OpenMoko" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OpenMoko</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Freenunner" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Freenunner</a>: </li></ul><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p76exsJn7SU</a>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.coop/@netopwibby" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@netopwibby</a> OFC <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> would've been a success if people exited about it (like me) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#developers</a> (like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a>) were ever abke to legally obtain any device with FirefoxOS on it.<ul><li>AFAIK the only Firefox OS <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/phone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#phone</a> offered in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> was a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a> device sold in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a>, where they demanded <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a> for the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SIM</a>, making it impossible to legally obtain it back then without having to fly down to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a>, ID at a store, fly back and then be overcharged for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/DataRoaming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#DataRoaming</a>!</li></ul>IMHO, <a href="https://mastodon.cc/@Mozilla" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Mozilla</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> cannot be trusted at all!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Exactly...Coincidentially, that's why <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> (and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a>) doesn't let users have <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/root" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#root</a> access because billions of devices owned by mostly "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TechIlliterates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TechIlliterates</a>" that hardly get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityUpdates" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecurityUpdates</a> would be an even bigger risk if they didn't boot a locked-down <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ROM</a> image, thus only allowing for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/malware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#malware</a> in user-privilegued userspace!<ul><li>I'd even go so far that I'd wish for <a href="https://mastodon.social/@torproject" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@torproject</a> to basically merge fmr. <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> & <a href="https://venera.social/profile/tails_live" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails_live</a> / <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@tails" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tails</a> / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tails" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tails</a> to build a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#privacy</a>-focussed <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ROM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ROM</a> for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Smartphones" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Smartphones</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablets" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tablets</a> i.e. "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TailsMobile" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#TailsMobile</a>" or sth.</li></ul>Cuz having a mobile OS that shoves everything through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tor</a> and only allows <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/userspace" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#userspace</a>-Apps in the form modern web technologies would be a big <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#security</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#privacy</a> gain.<ul><li>Not to mention <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/amd64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#amd64</a> is on it's way out and inevitably they gotta have to transition to supporting <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/arm64" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#arm64</a> and eventually <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RISCv" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RISCv</a>-<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/64bit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#64bit</a> at some point.</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://mamot.fr/@bohwaz" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@bohwaz</a> <a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> That's exactly the problem, cuz <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> was a good and solid basis not just for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LowEnd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#LowEnd</a>-Devices but could've been excellent for a more <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/secure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#secure</a> mobile OS, as it has good potential for <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sandboxing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sandboxing</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KISS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KISS</a>-principle'd <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> that are lean and efficient.But then again when enthusiasts like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> and I were shouting "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney</a>!" to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a>, they basically refused to sell any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/device" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#device</a>, and then we get the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PSvita" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PSvita</a>-Effect":<ul><li>Noone's gonna build an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> for a platform that is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">essentially a rounding error from the start!</a>…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://indieweb.social/@punkfairie" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@punkfairie</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> Yeah and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> is used with cheap phones of a brand named <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Swisstone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Swisstone</a>.Case in point: <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KaiOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KaiOS</a> nee <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> is now drowned in obscurity because of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> mismanagment and hamfisted approach compared to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a>.

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> <a href="https://mastodon.world/@tomiahonen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@tomiahonen</a> yes, and to add insult to injury <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> didn't even wanted to sell people like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> or me a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> device, with the only one being "launched" in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> being a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phone in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a> one could only attain in-store with all the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a>" nonsense they had, demanding a legal address in Spain back then.<ul><li>So whilst Firefox OS had the most "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/accessible" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#accessible</a>" <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Development</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tools" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tools</a> (literally using <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> for it and having every <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/App" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#App</a> as <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebView" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WebView</a>|s / <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/HTML5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#HTML5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/JS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#JS5</a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/CSS3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#CSS3</a> files in a container), they didn't even sold us said devices, making it a worse flop than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/UbuntuTouch" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#UbuntuTouch</a> which at least still gets some devices made that support it...</li></ul>And <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/nerds" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#nerds</a> like myself are far from the "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/consoomer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#consoomer</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Normies" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Normies</a>" for whom stuff that isn't on shelves at Staturn/MediaMarkt, BestBuy, Walmart, ... doesn't exist. I'm used to importing <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#tech</a> that I want!<ul><li>Feels even more <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DSGq9FQKU4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">half-assed</a> than <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MobileCoin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#MobileCoin</a> in hindsight…</li></ul>

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@ajsadauskas" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@ajsadauskas</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@JessTheUnstill</a> also <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackBerry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BlackBerry</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/PlayBook" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#PlayBook</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Tablet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Tablet</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYmHId9kJP4" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">was released</a> as a accessory screen for their Phones, which gave it "<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WiiU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#WiiU</a>-Effect" in terms of marketing.<ul><li>Plus <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RIM</a> relying hard on business clients and their proprietary applianced mail systems and having big carriers upsell to business people made them look outdated & quite literally out of touch once <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iPhone" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iPhone</a> went mainstream.</li></ul>I mean, the hardware was never their problem and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SMS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SMS</a>-Typists swear by their <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BlackberryCurve" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#BlackberryCurve</a>'s <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/keyboard" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#keyboard</a> but BlackBerry's <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/toolchain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#toolchain</a> - just like <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SymbianOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SymbianOS</a>'s - was just hideous to the point that devs like <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> didn't even want to try making <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> for those devices.<ul><li>Unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> fucking up <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> by refusing to sell devices to <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/developers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#developers</a>, by the time RIM & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Nokia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Nokia</a> came from their high horses, their market shares had been squeezed into mere "rounding errors" by <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> as it was way cheaper and easier to get <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Apps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Apps</a> developed, tested, sold, bought and use them than on their devices. </li></ul><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Sony" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Sony</a> even released some <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Symbian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Symbian</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/S60" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#S60</a> devices but since they didn't have the same signing keys, one couldn't even <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/sideload" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#sideload</a> apps (not to mention they didn't had the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OviStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OviStore</a> on those either!)...

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://cubhub.social/@Rusty" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@Rusty</a> <a href="https://rubber.social/@dragonarchitect" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@dragonarchitect</a> I disagree re: webOS and FirefoxOS.<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/webOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#webOS</a> failed due to lack of market penetration (there was only like 1 Tablet from <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/hp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#hp</a>) and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a> failed because <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> didn't even offer to sell devices to folks like me and <a href="https://oxytodon.com/@fuchsiii" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@fuchsiii</a> that wanted one.<ul><li>The only devices with <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Firefox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Firefox</a> OS in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> were a few <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#prepaid</a> phones that got sold in Spain (reqiring ID for no valid reason!) and which were essentially useless for anyone outside of Spain.</li></ul>Add to that the absurdity that <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mozilla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Mozilla</a> basically expected carriers (!!) to maintain and provide the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/AppStore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#AppStore</a>|s themselves and you get market fracturing worse than the "P.R." <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#China</a> (!!!)…It was mismanaged and self-sabotaged in the worst possible way.<ul><li>Similar to how <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OLPC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#OLPC</a> never sold the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XO1" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#XO1</a> in retail and didn't even offer the "Give one, Get one" deal in most places...</li></ul>The <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Duopoly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Duopoly</a> of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Android</a> & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/iOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#iOS</a> wasn't unavoidable, but an outcome of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfSabotage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SelfSabotage</a> and halfassed non-commitment by competitors!

Kevin Karhan :verified:<a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@usaryan1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@usaryan1</a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/@jon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@jon</a> +9001%<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/RIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#RIP</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/FirefoxOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#FirefoxOS</a>, cuz <a href="https://mastodon.social/@mozillaofficial" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@mozillaofficial</a> refusing to sell <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/develooers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#develooers</a> devices made it a stillborn!<ul><li>Seriously, the only Firefox OS phone in the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#EU</a> was some spanish <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/NetLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#NetLock</a>'d & <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SimLock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SimLock</a>'d device that one could only get by ID'ing in-store in <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Spain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Spain</a> and go through <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/KYC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#KYC</a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SecurityTheater" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#SecurityTheater</a> cuz it was sold only in a <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Prepaid" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#Prepaid</a> bundle!</li></ul>

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