fireside fedi is gonna be interviewing the author of that book about fedi that i was in tomorrow!!!
https://stream.firesidefedi.live/ for the livestream at 11am eastern tomorrow
https://video.firesidefedi.live/ for watching it after it's done
The Threads interpolation was a broad-day heist. They covered it with rosy blog posts, and comments meant to confuse and drain your energy. You remember two years ago, they were all under our posts putting in the work.
Why or how these major tech blogs never caught on to all this, I'll never know.
Never stop talking about it. It'll come to light.
#Fedipact #SocialWebFoundation
From: @ophiocephalic
https://kolektiva.social/@ophiocephalic/115011235861054411
As you've probably seen or heard Dropsitenews has published a list (from a Meta whistleblower) of "the roughly 100,000 top websites and content delivery network addresses scraped to train Meta's proprietary AI models" -- including quite a few fedi sites. Meta denies everything of course, but they routinely lie through their teeth so who knows. In any case, whether the specific details in the report are accurate, it's certainly a threat worth thinking about.
So I'm wondering what defenses fedi admins are using today to try to defeat scrapers: robots.txt, user-agent blocking, firewall-level blocking of ip ranges, Cloudflare or Fastly AI scraper blocking, Anubis, stuff you don't want to disclose ... @deadsuperhero has some good discussion on We Distribute, and it would b e very interesting to hear what various instances are doing.
And a couple of more open-ended questions:
Do you feel like your defenses against scraping are generally holding up pretty well?
Are there other approaches that you think might be promising that you just haven't had the time or resources to try?
Do you have any language in your terms of servive that attempts to prohibit training for AI?
Here's @FediPact's post with a link to the Dropsitenews report and (in the replies) a list of fedi instances and CDNs that show up on the list.
In his recent FediCon talk, Evan Prodromou implicitly rationalized his collaboration with Meta by proclaiming, "you don't negotiate with friends". Maybe not, but you don't hand enemies the keys to your kingdom either, which is exactly what he has done by giving Meta seats at the table of the ActivityPub working group. And for that matter, accepting a relatively significant sum of money from those enemies to fund your foundation goes rather beyond the negotiation phase as well, does it not?
As it stands, we have a hostile element enmeshed in the development process which undergirds the entire network, all the while systematically violating every last consent boundary the fedi has defined and defended over the course of its history. This is a power imbalance so egregious and amoral that it negates the raison d'etre of the fediverse altogether. Meta must be removed from SWICG
3/3 end
The development process of the protocol is poisoned by the presence of Meta. Any significant revision the organization proposes will be perceived as an aspect of the Meta incursion, suspected and resisted, whatever its actual origin. The backlash to any perceived attempt by Meta to manipulate the backbone of the fedi could lead to an existential crisis.
Under these circumstances the only way to avoid such a backlash is to refrain from advancing protocol development at all, which is also unsustainable. The way out of this is the ejection of the Meta intruders from SWICG and any other working group which has an influence on the future of ActivityPub.
2/3
We already know that the Social Web Foundation and SWICG leadership will ignore the latest news of Meta's mass datacrime against the fediverse and continue enabling the parasitic Zuckerberg entity to influence the future of ActivityPub development by facilitating its presence on the W3C working group overseeing AP. This is not a sustainable arrangement.
There is absolutely no basis of trust whatsoever between the fediverse network of communities and Meta. The idea that representatives of this slimy fascist operation are insinuated into the organization shaping the next generation of the protocol underlying our network, while they simultaneously inflict nonconsenual predatory "AI" extractivism against us, is ludicrous and intolerable. This right here is the destruction of every single value the fediverse claims to stand for in one fell swoop.
1/3
i reviewed Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media on amazon lol
Threads demonstrate why we couldn't trust them. chaos.social being one of the instances Zuckerbergs company scraped for LLama.
"Yes, that data can be scraped. Regardless if they can get at our messages, informed consent is important. If a bad actor gets our data without consent, it reveals that person should never have been trusted with it. We were right to not just hand it over, to federate it. " - me, Consent and the Fediverse , 2023
"By supporting the fedipact we are signalling that we don't consent to interacting with a known abusive actor who revels in their power. Mark Zuckerberg revealed that to us over a decade ago. He revealed what he can do with his power again and again.
You should not trust a company he owns with anything of you. Not your posts, not your contacts, not your metadata." Me - 2023
Unlike other #Fediverse servers, we didn't need to "wait and see" before preventing #Meta from using our community's content to train their #LLMs. When corporations show you who they are, believe them.
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/meta-facebook-tech-copyright-privacy-whistleblower
i'm gonna be editing that list as i think of more so be sure to view it directly on cyberpunk.lol to make sure you get the whole thingy
INSTANCES KNOWN TO HAVE BEEN SCRAPED BY META INCLUDE:
• mastodon.social
• mastodon.online
• tech.lgbt
• hackers.town
• chaos.social
• mastodon.org.uk
• mastodont.cat
• mastodon.de
• mastodon.xyz
• mastodon.coffee
• mastodon.cloud
• mastodon.scot
• mastodonapp.uk
• mastodon.green
• mastodon.ml
• mastodon.au
• mastodon.eus
• mastodonczech.cz
• mastodon.sdf.org
• mstdn.social
• troet.cafe
• techhub.social
• tchncs.de
• kolektiva.social
• mamot.fr
• defcon.social
• meow.social
• social.linux.pizza
• ioc.exchange
• eldritch.cafe
• yiff.life
• furry.engineer
• infosec.exchange
• blahaj.zone
• woof.group
• union.place
• queer.party
• sakurajima.moe
• pawb.social
• digipres.club
• journa.host
• corteximplant.net
• corteximplant.com
• octodon.social
• bitbang.social
• jorts.horse
• tenforward.social
• pnw.zone
• spore.social
• hear-me.social
• neuromatch.social
• vt.social
• cosocial.ca
• chitter.xyz
• tooter.social
• cloudisland.nz
• social.seattle.wa.us
• masto.es
• nobigtech.es
• mastodon.gal
• masto.host
• toot.community
• pony.social
• climatejustice.global
• pleroma.envs.net
• indiepocalypse.social
• anarchism.space
• disroot.org
• dragonscave.space
• toot.bike
• fuzzies.wtf
• norden.social
• beige.party
• ohai.social
• freeradical.zone
• metalhead.club
• treehouse.systems
• icosahedron.website
• sunbeam.city
• sunny.garden
• zeroes.ca
• ursal.zone
• chaosfem.tw
• mas.to
• mathstodon.xyz
• rubber.social
• todon.nl
• cupoftea.social
• nerdculture.de
• toad.social
there're definitely more, i just did ctrl+f when i thought of an instance name so i definitely missed some. will be editing this list to add them as i think of them
LEAKED: A New List Reveals Top Websites Meta Is Scraping of Copyrighted Content to Train Its AI (Including Many Fediverse Instances!!!)
"The tech giant is sidestepping guardrails that websites use to prevent being scraped, data show, in a move whistleblowers say is unethical and potentially illegal."
ARTICLE: https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/meta-facebook-tech-copyright-privacy-whistleblower
FULL PDF: https://www.dropsitenews.com/api/v1/file/b3555944-e204-4f5e-9a64-e44281b19a82.pdf
Move Slowly and Build Bridges: Mastodon, the Fediverse, and the Struggle for Democratic Social Media
my paperback of this book has arrived!!! i am legiterally in it, in the part that talks about mutual aid on fedi and also the final chapter about threads and fedipact. highly recommend giving it a read! this is one of the best books i've ever had the pleasure of experiencing, and i'm not only saying that because i'm in it!!! lol :3
shoutout to the author @rwg for writing such an awesome thingy!!!!!
i wonder when we're gonna hear what talks got accepted for #SeaGL this year
super hype in the pipe to hopefully give a twenty minute talk about #FediPact with @physical_reality :3
Because of #FediPact making its original noise about fedding with Zuck and Dorsey, I assume??